Yogini Mata and David C. Lane - 3

Thank you so much for this added material.

I too found some old memories relating to the time I met her. I don't know if I mentioned this, but at my meeting she indicated that she would take me within if I so desired..... more on this in the little magazine I am producing. I am including your wonderful account and pictures.

How is Professor Bhagat Ram Kamal doing these days? Is he being well received as the spiritual master?

thanks again,

Dave

Dear David,

Here I want to clarify that during conversation with Yogini I asked her twice whether she did inner practices. She categorically denied it by saying that Sadhana is Maya only. After some time I repeated my question in context of inner visions. She did say 'nothing special'. I must add that people are sometimes habitual of inner practices. Sometimes they do it consciously and at other time it may not be deliberate. This habit of Sadhana can result in being in a state of mind where they may be experiencing something but with a 'nothing special'.

Prof. Kamal is doing lot of hard work. He goes on tours and brings money for the temple. He has a following even outside Hoshiarpur. But his path is not without hurdles. As you know our Indian society is a caste ridden society. Bhagat Munshi Ram belonged to Megh caste (broadly known as Meghvansh). Dr. I.C. Sharma was a Brahmin. Initially Manavta Mandir was considered to a center of Brahmins. However Baba Faqir Chand admitted people from other castes and also appointed a low caste Bhagat Munshi Ram to work as Satguru in his place. I have been told by Captain Lal Chandji that Sharma approached him to say that Bhagat Munshi Ram was not to be accepted in the field as he belonged to low caste. Mr. Lal Chand has mentioned this incident twice. Sharma was doing that sort of lobbying. Obviously caste becomes a major factor in every field. That is why after death of a guru all such factors become prominent. People disobey their spiritual masters and keep working on caste lines. The case of Dayal Kamal is also not different. He was indirectly called a ‘Chamar’ by a spiritual leader. (Calling somebody a Chamar is against the law of the land but flouted very frequently). A political party built up atmosphere against that incident and the situation was diffused. Mr. Kamal has conducted very prudently in many odd situations.

 

David, I am of the firm view that all religious activities are basically financial activities. Spirituality is used for enhancing inflow of money. In Indian context it is being used to exploit poor masses. It is broadly caste based again. When money starts flowing to low caste gurus preaching ‘worship of the Formless’, Sikhism, Radhaswami Mat, Arya Samaj etc. appear with more colorful tags. The intention is to divert flow of money to the advantage of high caste. The masses, since centuries, forced to remain illiterate through religious sanctions are easy preys. But I fail to understand why people from counties having good level of education fall prey to Indian spirituality and religions, whereas spirituality prevails everywhere on earth.

Yogini Mata and Dr. David C. Lane - 2

Dear Bharat Bhushan:

Thank you so much for this fascinating material. I plan on doing a magazine devoted to what you uncovered. I have a few questions if you don't mind answering.

1. How did your meeting end with Yogini? Did she say she is still meditating? 

2. Does she have any following?

3. What were Your impressions of her when you met her?

Any other details, perhaps from your Hindi version, that you wish to share?

Thanks so much in advance.

Dave

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Dear David, I am giving information required by you:-

1. How did your meeting end with Yogini? Did she say she is still meditating? 

The end of the meeting was bit heavy due to the fact that she started jumping from one topic to another. However, when we took permission to leave, she very gracefully got up and accompanied us to the ground floor right up to the street. During conversation she has not said that she still meditates. Rather she says that meditation (Sadhana) is Maya only. She daily recites ‘Sukhmani Sahab’ a holy book of Sikhism.

2.  2. Does she have any following?

I enquired whether she delivered discourses. She denied. It is obvious that most of the time she talks to the ladies living in the street. Her ‘following’ remains a question since she gave Namdan to many ladies in the temple.

3.  3. What were your impressions of her when you met her?

She was declared a guru by Param Dayalji for whom I have great respect. She had been a guru of women and I took every care to give her same respect. I garlanded her and offered some fruits to her. I knew that age factor had descended upon her. I knew her family circumstances when she was living in Hoshiarpur. Her husband had been visiting her in the temple. She was very close to my mother while she lived in the temple.

Other details are given below:-

She was born to Mr. Mulkh Raj and Mrs. Sumitra Rani. It was perhaps a matter of chance that none of her brothers or sisters had children. Home environment was disturbed.

Tripta Devi came in contact with Shraddhanand. Mostly girls and women go to his Ashram and press his feet and do other services (Seva) in the Ashram. Shraddhanand gave Tripta Devi a new name i.e. Saroj Devi. He used to address her as if she was a male. Instead of saying ‘सरोज क्या बोलती है’ he would say ‘सरोज क्या बोलता है’. She prayed to Shraddhanand for blessing her brother with child. It fructified after some time. This strengthened her faith in Shraddhanand.

Faqir had appointed Lajjawati Kakkad (Kamalpur Wali Mai) as guru of women. Now he appointed Tripta Devi also. He called her Yogini Mata and she became famous with this name. Firstly, Tripta Devi became Saroj Devi and then Yogini Mata. A childless Tripta Devi became Yogini Mata and then visitors of the temple rechristened her as Jagat Mata (Mother of the world). She had been given a room for doing Yogic practices and giving Namdan. She remained there for many years. At that time she was in her youth and had a glowing face which is considered to be the result of Yogic practices. In those days I myself saw Yogini Mata in the temple.

After Param Dayal Ji's death, Dr. I.C. Sharma fastened his own saddle of authority on the Temple. Dedicated worker like Dr. Karam Chand Kapoor left the temple and went to his village. Bhagat Munshi Ramji (Faqir’s nominee for Satguru’s work) moved to Chandigarh. Some people say that Faqir, during his life time, had instructed Yogini Mata to leave the temple. Yogini Mata also confirms it. After Faqir’s demise Yogini lived in the temple for few months. She was there when Sharma came to Hoshiapur. Yogini says that Sharma did respect her. After some time she moved to a rented room near temple and finally left for Pathankot.

A short note on her present life

Yogini Mata says that now she does not think about eternal questions like- ‘From where have I come, where shall I go?’ She took care of her husband and his second wife and their children, though second wife had always been against her. Her husband and his second wife have since died. She belongs to a well to do family. Her father left sufficient money for her and lives in a room of a house which belongs to her father. She requires help from near relations.

She talks many things but speaks full sentences. She jumps from one topic to another but stops to listen to the other person. She is seemingly in good health. On 21-10-2010, during telephonic conversation she mentioned about her asthmatic problem. She also told that she had been doing Sumiran (repetition of holy name) with breathing process.

Yogini Mata expressed her wish to live in Manavta Mandir if permitted. I advised her about the changed circumstances after Faqir Chandji. She agreed with me. However, she wanted to come to the temple on festivals like Baisakhi. I have conveyed her desire to Dayal Kamalji (present spiritual head).

Bharat Bhushan

Yogini Mata and David.C. Lane - 1

 

Good morning Dr. David,

First of all I wish you MERRY CHRISMAS.

I am forwarding a file relating to Yogini Mata (Tripta Devi) with whom I had an hour long conversation. The file also contains a link where I have posted more details in Hindi. I have requested Prof. Kamal to bring her to temple at least once. Few days back a person from Thailand visited her. I have been told that Guru of that visitors experiences appearance of Yogini Mata. The visitor requested her to give some pieces of her hair and nail for supposedly some experiment. She obliged him but later she expressed suspicions about suspected black magic. She was assured by another lady that nothing would happen.

Bharat Bhushan

Twilight of Yogini’s Life

Tripta Devi was born in village Darangli of Gurdaspur, Punjab in the year 1940 she was a beautiful and promising child. After marriage she did not have child and as a result she got her husband married to another women. Children were born to second wife. However home environment remained turbulent. One day she went to a temple with unlocked hair and danced. The statues in temple got entangled in the hair and fell around. She had become a Yogini. Her first guru was Baba Bhag Singh. Her second master was Shraddhanand of Jammu and later she came in contact with Param Dayal Faqir Chandji. He gave her the name of ‘Yogini Mata’ and appointed her guru of women. She stayed in Manavta Mandir, Hoshiarpur for many years and worked as a guru. Here is the summary of conversation with her.

After much searching on the internet I could contact David C Lane a professor of philosophy and sociology in California, United States. In his very first email he enquired about Yogini Mata. Hence, for the past two years I had been searching Yogini Mata. I contacted Mrs. Asha Bhagat, activist of Bhagat Mahasabha, Pathankot. Luckily she had known Yogini Mata for the past many years. I reached Pathankot on 09-11-2010. Yogini lives in a room, a part of her father’s house. I saw her after almost 35 years. She met with all affection but a sort of detachment was visible in her behavior.

I introduced myself and made a mention about Bhagat Munshi Ramji and his wife Karam Devi. She could remember everything. I presented her fruits etc. She enquired about my wife and children. Then I told her the purpose of my visit. She sat in Sukhasana (cross legged).

“Do you remember David C. Lane? He came to the temple.”

“Yes, David!”

Then I further asked, “Do you recall Param Dayalji?”

“Yes.”

“Do you worship him within?”

“No, I do not do that.”

“Do you do inner practices?”

“I have left doing inner practices. During those days I saw all the three forms of Param Dayalji i.e. Dharma, the Form and the Light.”

“Sadhana (inner practice) is also Maya. I used to experience numbness in the body.”

“Do you deliver Satsangs.”

“I do not like delivering Satsang. I am fed up with Guruism. I will not give Namdan to anyone. (Here she recalled a lady). Shanti used to come to me for inner practices. I do not know what happened to her. She just lied on the railway track and committed suicide. Param Dayalji then said to me that Namdan should be given only to the righteous person.”

“Dayal Das and yourself used to instruct people for inner practices,” I asked. She said, “Yes, Dayal Das used to give instructions for very high stages of inner practices. He used to attract mystically. I used to go at his place but I always quarreled with him.”

After a few moments, I expressed my wish to ask her some specific questions about what sort of dreams she would generally see. 70 year Yogini immediately replied, “I do not see any dreams. Param Dayal Dayalji did cut them.”

I asked, “What type of visions you see during inner practices?” She said, “Nothing special. Previously I used to see divine forms, used to go to light.” She continued, “Once I was sitting in front of Shraddhanand (her second guru). During inner practices I felt as if five snakes came out of my Jun (योनि, private part) and entered into Shraddhanand. I told it to Shraddhanand. He said, “These five snakes are in fact ‘desire (काम)’, ‘anger (क्रोध)’, ‘greed (लोभ)’, ‘infatuation’ (मोह) and ‘ego (अहंकार)’. From today onwards you are free from all of them.”

I asked her, “How about your internal state now.” She said, “Sometimes I get angry. I do quarrel.”

During this conversation Yogini Mata sang and shared many devotional songs. There was intense flow of strong sentiments in her singing.

Full article (with photos) --> Twilight of a Yogini’s Life

Merry Christmas

 

Merry Christmas To All

Truth Always Wins-2 - Baba Faqir Chand

Chapter Two

It was at a tender age that a keen desire developed in me to know, who am I? Who is my Master? Where does He live? What is my source of life? This desire for the Truth left me the Hallowed Feet of Hazur Data Dayal Jim through a vision. Neither I did know Hazur Data Ji nor did I go to his Holy Feet. He led me through a practical life, keeping in view of my love and devotion. Data Dayal Ji had asked me to change the teachings before leaving this physical frame. I am doing this work in obedience to Hazur Data Dayal Ji.
I do not know whether what I say is correct or not, nor do I know how to change the mode of teachings. But I have no selfish end to achieve. My intentions are pure. I do not want people to worship me. I wish that they may know the Truth and how it always wins.
Generally, soul is considered to be important and immortal. I do not denounce this concept. But this is what I have understood about soul and about its Truth. I explain without making any claims of finality. At the initial stages of my research, I had no distinctive knowledge of happiness of soul and happiness of mind. I used to consider mental happiness (ecstasy) as the happiness (ecstasy) of soul. There is no doubt that this mental happiness that I enjoyed was of very sublime regions of mind. The manifestation of my forms at different parts of the country and abroad, to different persons at different times, fulfillment of their various needs and desires by my manifestations, convinced me that whatever manifestations I have been enjoying within (i.e., the holy forms of Hazur Data Dayal Ji), were not the reality, but creations of my faith and mind. It was all shadow ("Chhaya Purush"). It is neither the work of soul, not is it the soul. The realization made me go up far beyond the web of mental thought and creations.  From good company (Sat Sang) people understand sitting in or participation in a religious gathering as you are sitting now. O, my brethren, this not that Satsang which Data Dayal ji referred to. This is a stage for beginners only. The true Satsang is the realization of the Truth within you. Your physical body, mind and soul are not the Truth because they are transitory. ‘You’ see the light within; ‘You’ listen to the sound (Shabad); within ‘You’ is the Truth. Have company of your own "Self." But mind, until you meditate on my form or on any other holy form, you cannot achieve the company of your "Self," because you are not free from phantasmagoria. However, meditation on any holy form has its own importance and advantages. By doing so, you will gain happiness and contentment in your worldly life provided you have this conviction that ideal is the Supreme Lord. If you aspire for liberation, you shall have to attune your "Self" to the Eternal sound within. You shall have to undertake the journey upward from within.  Maya (illusion) is our intellect and its creation of thoughts, longings, and cravings. Shadow is materialism of your desire. For example, one man desires to have Darshana (a vision, a glimpse) of Baba Faqir Ji. His desire for Darshana is Maya and the form of Baba Faqir Ji that he sees in vision or otherwise is Saya (Shadow). Satsangis and their experiences have helped me to realize this Truth.  Right from my childhood I had determined to speak the Truth. I am expressing my views on the golden maxim "Satyameya Jayate" according to my own experiences. I understand that whatever I say, the worldly people do not need it, because they do not aspire for the ultimate aim of this life. They cannot achieve it as they are very much engrossed in the web of delusion.   A very important factor of my success in this research is that I did not face any problem with my source of honest livelihood. You must be self-dependent and self-sufficient. You must have bare necessities of life honestly earned. Guru is only a guide, a source of inspiration. None can lead you to ultimate destination with a miracle. Bread for your belly is the first and foremost necessity without which you cannot think anything else. But unfortunately, today the people are not contented with bread alone. They are dominated by ever increasing avarice and selfishness. I have propounded the thought "Be-man" so that mankind may live in peace and prosperity. They may learn the principle of live and let live, help the poor and the destitute, and they may live an honest and true life of man.

He whose earnings are not honest cannot achieve this supreme Truth. He who is honest and sincere, nature helps him. I am being helped from time to time and I do not face any problem, and that is the secret of my success. When you have an earnest source of livelihood, take care of your conduct and health.

When I was at Sunam railway station as a station master, I made an experiment to see what happens to man after death. I sat and entered into trance. When I descended from the state of ecstasy, my heart was rapidly palpitating. I got up and went to a nearby shop to purchase some grapes. The fruit seller had just put a bunch of grapes in his balance, when I fell unconscious. After some time, when I regained consciousness, my parents were carrying me home and I was feeling giddy. I requested them not to carry me home in that condition because my children and wife would weep. My parents thus sat under a Neem tree where I again entered into trance. I saw within three stages, i.e., of darkness, light and the vision of Hazur Data Dayal Ji.  I do not know how long I remained in this stage. But when I regained consciousness, it was 5 P.M.

The civil surgeon was sitting on a chair by my side. My private doctor was standing, my father was fanning me and two persons were massaging my feet. Civil Surgeon very politely enquired of me, "Pandit Ji! What has happened?" I replied that I wanted to see what happens after death. What did I experience? "Silence in the beginning and silence in the end."  If you are convinced that this world is merely an illusion, you need not even undertake Sadhana (discipline). Live a happy and contented life, believing that there is an Absolute Supreme Power. There is vibration in the Supreme Power which produces life. This life plays its role in different forms and ends. This is the Truth. Understanding and realization of this Truth is known as Jeevanmukta state ["Living at His will" state]. But this state cannot be easily attained, because we are very much dominated by worldly desires and cravings. To those who are too much with the world, Sadhana does not prove very useful.
Therefore, Sadhana is not for everybody. Such people must have maximum Sat Sang, so that their Samskars (impressions or suggestions of the mind) be changed. Those who have no desire, or who have developed dispassion for the worldly life must undertake Sadhana.  I gained this experience during the lifetime of Hazur Data Dayal Ji in 1919. But I did not speak this Truth so long as Hazur Data Dayal Ji was alive, because I know that if Truth was spoken about the manifestations of God, goddess or any holy form, people would stop making donations to Dham (Center) of Hazur Data Dayal Ji. However, when Hazur Data Dayal Ji Himself deputed me for this work, I have spoken without any reservations.
Nothing from without comes to guide you or to manifest within you. It is the law of radiation, your faith and belief that works. The living Guru makes you realize these stages in his Satsang.

People think that I am against Gurudom. No, I do not denounce it. The radiations of the Guru influence the deserving aspirants. Importance of the Guru is unquestioned. But Guru should himself be self-realized. The present Gurus of different centers have their own part to play for the betterment of humanity. But those who simply work for their name and fame cannot speak the Truth to their followers. They are a big pious fraud. They themselves are the victims of this illusionary world. Their followers may possible gain something in life due to their faith and belief, and may attain liberation as well. But these selfish Gurus cannot attain it, because they do not follow the dictum "Truth Always Wins."

PEACE TO ALL